Gimme Credit
oaktreecapital.com · 2025-03-06 · tier T2
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Marks contended that credit instruments, particularly high-yield bonds, present a more attractive opportunity than equities today despite yield spreads near historic lows. The concern about narrow spreads—currently around 290 basis points versus a historical normal range of 400–600 bps—is overblown, he argued, because what matters is total return, not spread width alone. High-yield bonds purchased at the worst possible moment (June 2007, when spreads hit an all-time low of 241 bps) still delivered 7.35% annualized returns over the following decade, outperforming Treasurys by roughly 3 percentage points per year, thanks to the contractual nature of coupon payments and the power of compounding. Marks noted that the high-yield bond universe's average default rate over 39 years (1986–2024) was 3.5%, with defaulting bonds costing investors about two-thirds of their stake, implying annual credit losses of roughly 230 basis points. Today's 290 bps spread would have been sufficient to offset that historical experience. He also highlighted that the credit quality of the high-yield universe has improved materially: BB-rated bonds now comprise 52.6% of the index versus 32.7% in 1999, meaning investors receive more compensation per unit of risk than in prior tight-spread environments. On private credit, Marks cautioned that the sector has never experienced a true downturn since its emergence post-2008, raising questions about whether some managers relaxed credit standards to deploy capital rapidly. He saw no systemic risk but flagged uncertainty around mark-to-market practices and forbearance behavior in a stressed environment. Comparing credit to equities, Marks noted that the S&P 500's current valuation implies ten-year returns in the low single digits, while the 10-year Treasury yield now exceeds the S&P's earnings yield—a condition unseen since the dot-com aftermath. High-yield bonds offered contractual returns well above equity expectations with far less variability.
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“over the 10- and 15-year periods, they outperformed those indices by about 3 percentage points per year despite having been bought at the worst possible moment spread-wise”
p#65 · confidence 92%
“the high yield bond universe's default rate has averaged 3.5%, and defaulting bonds have cost investors about 2/3 of the money they had at stake”
p#18 · confidence 95%
“the yield spread is around 290 bps, one of the narrowest spreads on record since high yield bonds began to be issued in 1977-78”
p#16 · confidence 95%
“from p/e ratios like today's, the S&P has historically produced ten-year returns averaging between -2% and 2% per year”
p#79 · confidence 94%
“the tide has never gone out on private credit, meaning we haven't had an opportunity to see its flaws”
p#74 · confidence 88%
“BB 32.7% [1999] 52.6% [2024]”
p#1 · confidence 93%
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