Is It a Bubble?
oaktreecapital.com · 2025-12-09 · tier T2
Source: Memo · oaktreecapital.com dated 2025-12-09. Auto-generated factual summary. Not investment advice. Verify before acting.
Howard Marks argued in his December 2025 memo that AI is exhibiting the hallmarks of a historical bubble — speculative behavior, circular deals, and FOMO-driven capital allocation — while acknowledging that transformational technologies have always generated such excesses. He drew parallels to the railroad, radio, and internet bubbles, noting that "inflection bubbles" based on real technological progress still destroy investor wealth even as they accelerate adoption. His core tension: AI's potential may be genuine, but the enthusiasm surrounding it may already be irrational. Marks flagged the growing use of debt as a distinct risk this cycle. He cited JPMorgan estimates of $5 trillion in AI infrastructure costs, noted that the largest spenders held only ~$350 billion in cash collectively as of Q3 2024, and highlighted Oracle, Meta, and Alphabet issuing 30-year bonds to fund AI investments. He warned that financing speculative assets with debt — rather than equity — inverts the historical logic of capital markets and magnifies losses if the buildout overshoots demand. On valuation, Marks noted that Nvidia briefly reached a $5 trillion market cap, up roughly 8,000x from its 1999 IPO value of $626 million. He observed that current P/E ratios for leading AI names are lower than those seen during the 1998–2000 internet bubble, which supporters cite as evidence this cycle is different. His bottom line: a moderate, selective posture is warranted — neither fully in nor fully out — because the technology's impact is real but its timing and winners remain unknowable.
Citations · 6
“75% of gains, 80% of profits, 90% of capex – AI's grip on the S&P is total and Morgan Stanley's top analyst is 'very concerned'”
p#42 · confidence 97%
“From its formation in 1993 and its initial public offering in 1999, when its estimated market value was $626 million, Nvidia briefly became the world's first company worth $5 trillion.”
p#44 · confidence 99%
“Oracle, Meta, and Alphabet have issued 30-year bonds to finance AI investments. In the case of the latter two, the yields on the bonds exceed those on Treasurys of like maturity by 100 basis points or less.”
p#84 · confidence 98%
“JPMorgan analysts have done some sums on the back of a napkin, or possibly a tablecloth, and estimated the bill for the infrastructure build-out would come to $5tn... the biggest spenders (Microsoft, Alphabet, Amazon, Meta and Oracle) had only about $350bn in the bank, collectively, as of the end of the third quarter.”
p#82 · confidence 97%
“Thinking Machines Lab, the artificial intelligence startup founded by former Open AI executive Mira Murati, is in early talks to raise a new funding round at a roughly $50 billion valuation... The startup was last valued at $12 billion in July, after it raised about $2 billion.”
p#71 · confidence 96%
“no one should go all-in without acknowledging that they face the risk of ruin if things go badly. But by the same token, no one should stay all-out and risk missing out on one of the great technological steps forward.”
p#165 · confidence 95%
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